I realize that I played right into the 'elicit strong reaction' art angle when my opening post claimed he was a hack, but I hope my follow ups clarified things.

I think I've been perfectly clear as to the 'why' aspect of not liking his stuff, but hey, I can't fault anyone for making a living. It's obvious that he appeals to some people, so yeah, there's room for everyone to play. The most obvious way you either like or don't like someone's particular art is by whether you're a patron and buy their stuff.

And didja see how through my argument I actually heaped the praise on folks like the CP artists here? Didja? Didja? Cuz I did.

What snake-oil pitch? "You're an asshole for buying this"?

He's pretty upfront about everything.

As far as bootlegging skelves etc. You're not perceiving the whole Suckadelic idea. The universe centers around sci-fi, cartoons etc. and re-packaging those ideas, feelings and associations into a humorous figure for fans of those genres.

You also come off as incredibly bitter when you say that you're active in several casting and modeling forums or whatever and then take shots at the customer base like you are upset they aren't buying your stuff because they are too stupid or gullible.

I have a fairly sizeable Suckadelic collection as well as a fine art collection. I don't think a Suckadelic collection earns me any hipster points but it does make me laugh when I read the backs of the figures or smile when I know which pieces came from what action figure I played with as a kid.

Some of it is also hilariously relevant. I'll post some card backs later.

Bad example, but has everyone seen the old Seinfeld episode where George has 'Opposite Day' and does everything the exact opposite of what he'd normally do and it all works out for him? SL's approach (marketing) if you will is pretty much the embodiment of this. Saying "You're an asshole for buying this" is a fairly transparent way of saying "Please buy my stuff".

I think I perceive it pretty accurately. (I am also a HUGE geek and fan of the properties he's 'inspired' by)

That's a double whammy with a false perception AND assumption, and you know what happens when you assume.

Aren't the toys just the chosen vehicle for his satirical humor? I can see how he could be irritating to art purists, but his art is really in the parody, not the production values of the toys themselves.

Haha. I almost wrote you know what happens when you assume too in my original post but didn't.

I'm not assuming anything. I don't know you or what you do. I was just saying that it came off that way.

You seem like a nice enough guy. It wasn't a personal slight.

I was just responding to the fact that you can't lump an entire fanbase into one category. It's like comparing CP fans to flippers that buy things at conventions. People buy for different reasons and motivations.

hahaha, I read the article and saw how relvent his quote was in the article.

Fair enough.

And I am a nice enough girl.

No harm no foul!

Well said!

Haha oops. Nice enough lady.

I've known about his toys for awhile but paid no attention to him, not that I disliked him just not my style. It wasn't until I heard him speak on Toy Break that I started paying attention - the guy is hilarious - I love his tell it like it is attitude and his whole over the top persona is fun to watch. His rise from nothing is a great inspiration, I look forward to seeing him on Work of Art!

So I was just told he is on the cover of the village voice too

Totally agreed. Same here about paying no attention to him previously.

He freakin cracks me up.

And the kiss on the helmet totally makes that image.

I think this thread only reinforces what Suckadelic has set out to do. I don't own any of his work, but I think what he is doing is great. It's not about the toys people...

So wait I CAN have my very own rockin' pink gay Skelve army!?!